Editor’s Note: This is a Braves Bullpen Usage Study comparing Brian Snitker and Fredi Gonzalez. Our founder Mac Thomason wrote up Fredi when he was hired and Matt Langford wrote up Brian Snitker here. Now, on with the show. Take it away, Alan.
It’s about time to add some context to this.
When Brian Snitker elected to use Patrick Weigel with the Braves trailing 8-7 in the ninth inning against the Washington Nationals two weeks ago, it felt like the boiling point of what many Braves fans have been thinking for a while regarding Snitker’s management. The quote from after the game just brought confirmation.
Snitker doesn’t like using his high leverage relievers when the Braves are behind. The eye test supports this claim, and the quotes do as well.
But do the numbers? How often does Snitker actually use his best guys with the team ahead vs. trailing? And how does it compare to how his predecessor handled similar situations? Let’s look at some numbers on the Braves Bullpen Usage.
Below is the bullpen usage for every Atlanta reliever with at least 20 appearances in a contending season since Bobby Cox retired. It’s a very arbitrary number, but I’m working off the assumption that any reliever that didn’t even appear in 20 games wouldn’t qualify as a high leverage option.
I am defining contending seasons as 2011-2013 for Gonzalez and 2018-2020 for Snitker. Part of that was to have an even three seasons vs. three seasons sample size, part of it was because it seems a little harsh to judge either manager’s bullpen usage while they were managing teams without a lot of good bullpen options.
It’s also worth noting I lowered my cutoff point to 10 appearances for the 2020 season as a result of the abbreviated schedule.
Braves Bullpen Usage Under Fredi Gonzalez
2011
2012
2013
When it came to his undisputed best reliever Craig Kimbrel, Gonzalez did try to say away from using him without the lead or at least a tie game. Kimbrel made 210 appearances across these three seasons, and 199 (94.8%) came with the Braves leading or tied. That’s to be expected; after all he did spend those three years as the team’s closer.
Where it gets more interesting is when you look at the rest of the high leverage relievers. Eric O’Flaherty spent most of this time period either as a seventh inning man in front of Jonny Venters, or an eighth inning set-up man for Kimbrel once injuries started to plague Venters. O’Flaherty fell shy of the 20 appearance cutoff for 2013, but in 2011-2012 he appeared in 142 games and pitched to a microscopic 1.31 ERA.
O’Flaherty made 119 (83.8%) of those appearances with the Braves leading or tied, but he did still get the call 19 times (13.4%) when the Braves were within three runs. At least some of the time, Gonzalez called on his best non-closer weapon to keep a game within striking distance.
The cases of Luis Avilan and David Carpenter are also interesting. Avilan pitched to a 1.52 ERA in 75 games for the 2013 Braves, and Carpenter had a 1.78 ERA in 56 appearances. Both were extremely effective relievers who Gonzalez clearly trusted to pitch in big spots.
Avilan had usage that lines up with his numbers a little more. He made 30 (40%) of his 75 appearances in games the Braves led by 1-3 runs, and only 18 (24%) in games the Braves were trailing. Carpenter on the other hand? He made more appearances (28.6%) with the Braves trailing by 1-3 runs than in any other situation. He still made the majority of his appearances in games the Braves were leading or tied in, but it was a closer split than you would expect from a pitcher with an ERA under two. He pitched 60% of the time with the lead or tied, and 40% with the Braves trailing.
And in the case of Anthony Varvaro and his impressive 2.82 ERA in 62 appearances, 36 (58%) of his appearances came with the Braves trailing. In fact, Varvaro only pitched eight (12.9%) of the time in games the Braves were leading by 1-3 runs. Where Varvaro ranks in terms of relievers on this team can be debated, but he was third and usage, so Gonzalez clearly trusted him. And more than half of the time he did trust him, it was with the Braves behind in the game.
And now to return to the present, here are the three contending seasons with Snitker at the helm under the same microscope:
BRAVES BULLPEN USAGE UNDER Brian Snitker:
2018
2019
2020
The Snitker situation is a little bit tougher to get a handle on because he never had a truly dominant Braves bullpen like Gonzalez did until the second half of 2019, but there are still some interesting numbers on the table.
The best individual seasons Snitker has had at his disposal belonged to Arodys Vizcaino and Brad Brach in 2018. Vizcaino’s 2.11 ERA in 39 appearances came almost exclusively with the lead or in a tie game (89.7%); in fact 28 of his 39 appearances (71.8%) came just with the Braves leading. Vizcaino only made four appearances (10.3%) all season with the Braves trailing, and only twice with the Braves trailing by 1-3 runs.
Brach pitched in 27 games, 21 of which (77.7%) came with the Braves leading or tied. The closest Snitker came in 2018 to using a high leverage reliever with the team trailing probably came in the form of Shane Carle. Carle pitched in 53 games, and the bulk of them (18, 33.4%), came with the Braves down 1-3 runs. In total he pitched 22 times (41.5%) with the lead and 20 times (37.8%) with a deficit, and filled out the rest of his work in tie games.
Once you get to 2019, that’s where the heavy lifters enter the equation. More specifically, the three big trade deadline acquisitions: Shane Greene, Chris Martin and Mark Melancon.
Greene is the club leader in relief appearances this year, and when you tack on his work last year he now has 49 regular season outings for the Braves. 40 (81.6%) of Greene’s 49 appearances have come with the Braves tied or leading, and 21 (42.9%) have come in that sweet spot of a 1-3 run lead.
Martin has pitched to a solid 2.48 ERA in 35 appearances, but he too has mostly worked from ahead. Only six of his 35 appearances have come with the Braves trailing, meaning he is on the mound with the lead or in a tie game 82.9% of the time.
Finally, Mark Melancon has almost exclusively pitched from in front throughout his 41 Braves appearances. Melancon has taken the mound with the Braves leading or tied 35 out of 41 times, good for 85.4% of his outings.
Luke Jackson’s 2019 would be further evidence towards Snitker’s reluctance to use high leverage relievers without the lead. Jackson led the team in appearances with 70 and had a 3.84 ERA. An even 70% (49 out of 70) of those outings came with the lead, and another eight (11.4%) came in tie games. Put that together, and the best (full season) reliever on the 2019 club was only summoned with a deficit on the scoreboard 18.6% of the time.
Total it all up and you get 1,155 appearances from 20+ outing relievers across 2011-2013. Gonzalez made 569 calls with the lead (49.3%), 191 (16.5%) in tie games and 395 (34.2%) with the Braves trailing.
Snitker’s sample size has been almost identical; he’s had 1,114 appearances from 20+ outing relievers. Snitker summoned these relievers 581 times with the lead (52.2%), 170 times in tie games (15.3%) and 363 times (32.5%) with the Braves trailing.
So by a nose, Snitker does use his better relievers more with the lead (52.2% to 49.3%), while Gonzalez was more ready to use high leverage relievers to keep a game close (34.2% to 32.5%).
Fredi vs. Snitker Wrapup
What do you want to take out of this? Your prerogative. A lot of the calculations are arbitrary, because if you altered my premise of 20 appearances being the magic number for a reliever, the results would be altered as well. It’s also up to you to decide which relievers truly are “high leverage†ones, and therefore should be deployed in what spots.
If it feels to you like one manager prioritized certain relievers in certain situations, it might loop back to your opinion of the relievers themselves. And of course, it’s up to you to decide how much stock you take in data that ultimately produced a difference of just a few percentage points in either direction.
You can even argue they’re too similar, and that itself is the problem. The numbers aren’t too far off.
Thanks for reading on Braves Bullpen Usage, Fredi Gonzalez vs. Brian Snitker. If you missed yesterday’s piece on “Freddie Freeman, Hall of Famer?”, you can find it here.
Tonight’s Lineup:
Transaction from Yesterday:
What do y’all think? Which manager would you rather have controlling the bullpen in a big game?
If I’m choosing strictly between Fredi and Snitker, I’m going to go with Snitker. It’s always possible that he will follow a bullpen plan if given one in the playoffs.
Hey Ryan – good stuff here man.
Question for you: how do you post pictures in the comments?
I look at this somewhat differently. I simply took the BRef numbers for each reliever and look at the ratio of HighLeverage entrances to Other Entrances.
In 2018, not a single reliever had more than half his appearances in high leverage situations. Brach, Venters, Winkler, Minter, Vizcaino and Carle ranged from 0.93-0.73, and the other relievers (Biddle, Freeman, Moylan, Jackson, and Gohara) were all under 0.5. So in 2018 Snitker could properly be characterized as having (a) nobody he really trusted; (b) 6 guys he sort of trusted, and another bunch of guys he never wanted to use in a high leverage situation.
In 2019, the top group had, collectively, more leverage, in order:
Jackson, Melancon, Vizcaino, Winkler, Minter, Newcomb, and Greene ranged from 1.2-0.8
Parsons and Swarzak were in a middling group around 0.7
and the rest (Martin, Webb, Blevins, Biddle, Thomson, Dayton, Sobotka and O’Day) were kept out of high leverage situations
So far this year, Melancon’s at 1.375, the highest leverage ratio Snitker’s ever used.
Martin is at 0.875
Minter and Matzek are semi-high leverage at 0.7 and 0.6 and nobody else is even at 0.5. It should be noted in the BRef categorization that Weigel’s appearance was in a medium leverage situation.
But what I see in Snitker is a guy who is narrowing his choices more and more and using fewer and fewer pitchers in high leverage situations.
@Scott
I have to use links. Pics in and of itself are a real problem in our version of WordPress.
I generally think Snitker is a better manager than Fredi, so I’d rather have him in charge period. I could see some sort of argument that maybe Fredi was slightly better at managing the bullpen, but: a) I don’t really think so; b) Fredi had a better bullpen for the most part, with this season being the only bullpen Snit has had that matches up favorably with those bullpens that Fredi had access to during the outlined time period; and c) even if I allow that Fredi might have been slightly better at bullpen management (and again, I’m not sure I buy it), he wasn’t exactly a wiz in this area himself. If he was, he wouldn’t have left the best reliever in the sport in the bullpen to watch the season get pissed away in Game 4 of the ’13 NLDS.
I honestly think bullpen management is probably Snitker’s worst attribute, and though I was plenty upset that he threw away about a 50-50 shot for an extra win during that stretch of conceding 1-run games a few weeks ago, he seems to have made an adjustment and pitched guys from the upper tier in a lot of 1-run deficits since then, and in any case, he’s not likely to concede late-and-close games once we get to the playoffs.
I fixed the link to Mac’s Fredi profile.
The individual usage breakdowns are interesting, but without knowing how the other relievers (in whom the managers presumably have less confidence) were/are used, it seems like the last chart may just result from Snitker having had a few more opportunities to use relievers with the team ahead than Fredi did and not quite as many opportunities with the team behind. (I believe Snitker’s teams have been slightly better, so that seems plausible.) If the less-used relievers were used relatively more often by Fredi with the team ahead and relatively more often by Snitker with the team behind, that would support the argument that Snitker is a little more focused on protecting leads than Fredi was. Length of outings may also influence the number of opportunities in each situation, especially this year when Snitker hasn’t been able to use relievers to face one or two batters as often and has had to ask for multiple innings several times when our starters have been shelled.
Interesting that the Brave who has entered the most tie games, and the one for whom tie games make up by far the highest share of his appearances (not necessarily the same thing), is Grant Dayton. I expect most of those have been relatively low-leverage middle inning situations, though.
Good start to the broadcast by Chip. Claimed that Ozuna is from Venezuela when he’s, in fact, from the Dominican Republic. I guess he probably meant Ender Inciarte, who is from Venezuela??? Like, I dunno…
Hey! The bats are awake to start this one!
That’s not how you get elected to the HOF, Freddie….
Didn’t end very well, though. Freeman costs us at least a run with a baserunning gaffe and Riley swings at ball four and takes strike three on consecutive pitches to end the inning.
And Riley has cooled off, alongside Swanson and Acuna ( tonights 2B notwithstanding).
Acuna is 1-19, Swanson is 1-25, and I dont have Riley numbers, but his ops has dropped from .755 to 700
This is a great offensive team but it sure feels like they waste an inordinate amount of scoring opportunities. Four hits and a walk yields just one run.
Todd Frazier is the Ender Inciarte of cleanup hitters.
Boy, Matz has been bad this year…
@14, He hasn’t been quite as bad. He’s 6-for-30 on the road trip. He’s had a bunch of 1-fers, but isn’t on like a 1-for-25 or whatever.
We let Matz off the hook in the first inning, but he’s on ice in the cooler now, to complete the metaphor.
Bringer of Satellites.
Bill James ran a Twitter poll today asking if Freddie will be a HOFer. Feels like a collective consciousness moment — he’s being viewed in that prism now.
He’s now over the Mendoza line on the road trip!!!
Atta boy, Riley! Been a while since you hit a HR.
This home plate umpire sucks.
I doubt Fredi ever had to manage a bullpen that routinely had to cover 6 or 7 innings multiple times a week.
The Mets DFA’ed D’Arnaud last year.
Yesterday I wrote a piece coming tomorrow about the odds of the Braves breaking the one month HR record and it looks like they decided to ruin all my numbers tonight. But I’m not mad! I enjoy a good home run derby.
Suffice it to say, the odds are better now than they were two hours ago.
And considerably better than when you wrote that 15 minutes ago…
Man! We’re just crushing the ball tonight! Correct me if I’m wrong, ububba (or one of our other New York denizens), but I think almost all of these balls would’ve made it out even in the old, super-cavernous Citi Field dimensions. Maybe Ozzie’s first home run wouldn’t have. Everything else, though.
I don’t know if you can tell on TV, but the wind is really blowing tonight… still, those were some serious bombs. They would’ve been HRs in the Grand Canyon.
BTW, the Braves have scored more than 10 runs 9 times (in just 51 games) this year. Scary-good stuff.
Chip just used his dad’s line: “Bases are loaded and Luis Rojas wishes he was”.
The Phillies are currently in the postseason despite a .500 record.
Love the new rules actively rewarding mediocrity. “Exciting,” “thrilling.”
Dansby shouldn’t a swung at that 15-mile-an-hour 2-0 pitch.
Beating the Mets is so good.
UPDATE: I just became a huge Amir Garrett fan. https://twitter.com/CespedesBBQ/status/1306095257981984769
Recapped.
https://bravesjournal.mystagingwebsite.com/2020/09/19/braves-make-poor-house-guests-thrash-mets-15-2/
For the Braves to enter the play offs they must be consistent. Snitiker must stay closer focused not like happened in game 5 Of the 2019 play offs .Snitiker must react quicker to changing a pitcher other wise the opponent will get to far ahead and then there is a higher mountain to climb. It would be a great and a beneficial idea to practice this thinking now to get in to the proper mode for the playoffs. Once you enter the play offs mistakes can become costly. I monitor each game and have commented thru Twitter my analogy of the game . Unfortunately I see the same repetitive mistakes. As Vince Lombardi says if you make a Mistake learn and correct the Mistake or you never made the Mistake. Remember this “winning is not necessarily every thing its the Only thing ” that is a a quote out of Vince Lombardi Hand book. That is why the Super bowl championship trophy is named the Vince Lombardi Trophy. To sum up my thoughts. Let’s win the next 75% to 100 percent of the remainder part of the 2020 season. And have it carry on through the 2020 play offs I want to see a world series Trophy this year with Rings . Then once you win carry that way of playing on to 2021. Not like most clubs and its one and done. Its been a long time since a club has won the Coveted prize 2 or more seasons in a row.
Bill Edwards Sports Editor of the Palm coast Ttibune.